Hey, guess who finally got around to answering all of your questions? Mr. Attorney Man! Below I am pasting the unedited and uncut word document sent directly from the man himself, with the exception that I added in a few pictures. Although he writes a good post, the dude only sent me three pictures... all of his office. So if you wanted to see part of his face or anything, you'll have to jump back here.
If you asked a legal question, it will be in the first half of this post. If the legal jargon bores you, skip to the second half of the post for his answers to what he referred to as "the mushy gushy stuff." I will say, I'm almost embarrassed to post this, he was much too kind to me in his answers.
Well,
first I have to preface this article by providing a disclaimer that this has
not been written to serve as legal advice that may be relied upon for any
individual involved in a legal cause of action.
I have not met with any of you, established a confidential lawyer-client
relationship and you must refer to your local state laws in order to properly
represent / defend yourselves in a legal cause of action. Further, I would highly recommend for anyone
reading this article to consult with an attorney in your local area, most
initial consultations will be conducted for free and navigating a legal case is
not an easy task without some direction and advice from a professional. Second,
I would like to apologize for the delay in my response to all of your
questions. I have been politely coaxed by
“Eden” for some time now to get back to all of you and unfortunately, I have
been very busy as of late and unable to fulfill my promise. So, after many requests by “Eden” that began
politely and became more and more pointed over the past month, I figured I
needed to sit down and get this done.
So,
it appeared to me that many of you had similar questions, so I will do my best
to group them into topics and try to individually refer to each post as I go
through this, but considering 98% of you posted “anonymously,” it makes my job
easier. Here goes:
1) Child Support:
There
were several questions regarding child support, as there always are in
answering questions related to “family law,” or domestic relations, to be
technical. The first sparked a bit of a
heated debate between the commenters because the individual asked the question
“Why are fathers allowed to be scapegoated.”
People followed up defending mothers, the institution of child support
and said “Fathers are not made to pay more than they can afford.” You know after having done this job for
over a decade now, I can very honestly say that I agree with both sides…and
before I dive in I have to preface this by saying that I hope this doesn’t
upset anyone.
As
a fair warning, I will say that I quickly forget about the cases where people
get along, are reasonable, logical, mature adults and do not need an attorney’s
help in raising their children or resolving disputes, but putting those cases
aside, I can think of five clients that I have right now which would fall on
each side of this issue. Personally, the
theory that opposites attract seems to ring true in what I do because time and
time again, I come across a Father that loves his kids, spends every minute
that the Mother will allow with them and they make a great deal of money and
pay a great deal of money in support….I find more often than not, that
stereotypically they are dealing with a Mother on the other side that treats
them horribly, speaks negatively to the children about them, refuses to give
them any time with the kids or acknowledge their contribution, but always
berates them for not giving enough.
Whereas, I have many clients who are Mothers who bend over backward to
be kind and considerate to a dead beat, who doesn’t pay, doesn’t assist them
and ultimately burdens them with another child to watch over, rather than a
parent. These clients inevitably are
always posing the question to me, why won’t he just be a father and spend time
with his children because they need him in their lives. Whereas I am posed the opposite question of
why won’t she just allow me to spend time with my children on the other side of
this stereotypical dynamic.
I
don’t know why it is, but it is very common for me to encounter one of the two
extremes. So, I can understand both
sides of that argument and in response to the gentleman [I am assuming] that
asked the question, I can understand your frustration. All states are different, but as an example
that lends credence to your frustration, one client of mine comes to mind…he earns
a great salary, but married a trust fund baby who doesn’t understand the value
of a dollar. Although she only earns
$25,000.00 per year, she spends money as if she earned ten times that amount. Her and her pompous attorney are regularly in
court demanding that my client pay EVERYTHING on a monthly basis. My client is forced to pay a percentage of
his income for support, another $1,000 a month in daycare, another $500-$1,000
a month in medical fees [mother is a hypochondriac that loves the emergency
room], money toward the extra-curricular expenses and when all is said and
done, he can barely afford to pay me to defend him and hasn’t even had cable in
over a year because of what she is doing to him. I believe that he pays in excess of sixty
(60%) percent of his income to her on a monthly basis after all is said and
done. Conversely, I could give you a
dozen examples of current cases I have at the moment, where women are forced to
pick up all of the slack financially because they are forced to chase their ex
for a portion of his part-time minimum wage salary that was obtained in a mere
attempt to lower his support obligation.
So…needless
to say, the one thing I have learned is that you cannot stereotype family law
cases. Some of you are willing to jump
and vehemently defend what you believe to be the ignorant position of a
commentator, but trust me…..until you have seen many of these cases, you cannot
quite understand the plight many people are put in on all sides of various
issues when it comes to family law disputes.
I often see men get screwed financially and in relation to their parenting time, while I
could give you just as many, if not more, examples of women who are put in
horrific circumstances because they are simply abandoned with more
responsibilities than I could ever fathom.
So….regarding support, I understand any and all situations, examples, emotions
and viewpoints, regardless of which side of the fence you may be standing
on.
A
woman asked a more pointed question regarding withholding orders because she is
hard-pressed to continue chasing her ex who quits job-after-job before she can
get a stable amount of support through any one employer. This is a tough one because there isn’t a
great answer. In my state [which I am
quickly realizing I need to be discrete about in preparing my responses], there
are State Enforcement Agencies in each county that will assist you in the
“chasing,” it may take waiting six (6) months to be accepted into their
“system” because they are overworked, but once you are in the system, my
experience is they do the chasing for you.
They haul guys in there once a month, make them prove income, issue
bench warrants if they do not show up and really harass them with some pretty
severe consequences. The best part is
that you aren’t even required to appear in court because really, it has nothing
to do with you as it is his problem. If
that is a possibility where you reside, it will alleviate the necessity for you
to assume the role of lawyer and chasing him consistently, but I commend you
for doing it nonetheless! Also, to
further my answer, if the Father of your children is not paying their support
obligation, file a contempt petition against him and let the Judge know what
you’ve gone through, how many times you’ve had to do this, what wages you have
missed out on by attending court, that he is now “MIA” as you said, that he has
failed to pay support and that you want a bench warrant issued for his
arrest. When he gets pulled over or
questioned by the police for any reason, he will be detained and forced to pay
a large bond to be released, which ultimately should go to you (ask Eden
though, doesn’t always get returned to you, so easily).
I
received another couple questions regarding support, which tied in a few other
issues, but I will do my best in addressing these questions as well. For instance, one person referred to a gentleman
who was jailed and had tried to get out of child support several times over the
life of the case, but upon his release he was attempting to reunify himself
with the children after many years.
First, I must say that it depends on your state, but most states define
the term “emancipation” as the age of 18, or graduation from high school,
whichever should last occur, but no later than the age of 19. That is the definition of emancipation and
when the court will terminate child support and lose jurisdiction [or the
right] to make decisions regarding your children, such as visitation. The person writing the question was concerned
over introducing her former spouse to the children based upon his criminal
history and behavior. In that case, I
would not allow visitation and if he should bring you to court, you must inform
the court of your concerns and why, but you must be organized and provide
detail and evidence, rather than just your side of the story….judge’s aren’t
really concerned with your opinion and considering they are lied to all day
every day, your word, unfortunately is not good enough most of the time. I would recommend getting an attorney if you
find yourself in this situation, if feasible, but a counselor for the child can
also be of great assistance if you cannot because they can be your expert
witness, if you will. They can provide
an unbiased opinion of the child’s concerns, yours and even meet with your ex
and make an assessment of them, without the cost of an attorney because they
are covered by insurance, which we are not.
They also become emotionally invested and will typically go above and
beyond their job title. To more
specially address this question though, if there is a gentleman seeking
visitation with a questionable past, you want to inform the court of all facts
that may support your position, provide certified records of arrest, pleas or
findings of guilt, submit them to the court and request that visitation be
denied. I would also recommend writing
out an affidavit containing all of the “facts” that you want to submit to
support your position and attach that to your petition. While you are in court, it will assist you in
recalling all of the relevant facts that you wanted to present to the court and
you may provide the Judge with a copy, which they may end up reading and
alleviating you of the responsibility to explain all of the facts. Further, please be aware that if it doesn’t
seem to be going your way and the Judge doesn’t seem willing to deny visitation
all together, your next best result would be supervised visitation, which you
need to request. If that seems to be
slipping away, then you want “gradual reunification,” which are short visits
that grow longer over time when visitation becomes more comfortable for
everyone involved. Stick to your guns though and do not be shy in court, if you
don’t request something or inform the court of any particular facts because you
are confused and things seem to be happening to quickly and you don’t quite
understand what is happening, then ask questions, remind the Judge of the
reason that you are there and as a last resort, ask the Judge if you can
request a continuance to retain an attorney because you are not a lawyer and
need some assistance with your case. My
experience tells me that the Judge will give you time to get a lawyer at any
time, but at the same time be aware that the Judge cannot provide you with
legal advice and will not assist you through the process.
2) Supervised Visitation:
There
was a gentleman by the name of “Help a Dad Out” who asked several
questions. He alluded to a situation
where custody was taken away from a mother, who was now receiving supervised
visitation. He was struggling with
whether he should give her more time, should it be unsupervised and what his
options are. First, I wouldn’t go
outside a court order as general rule because it can begin to diminish the
reason you needed that order in the first place in the court’s eyes. For instance, if you provide her with
unsupervised visitation, I as the Judge would believe that you know her better
than I do and if you are not scared to provide her with unsupervised
visitation, then why would I support continuing with a more restrictive court
order. Now in your situation, there is
more that goes into it. First, I would
say use a counselor to play middle man, rather than you bearing all of these
very difficult decisions on your own. Another
option would be to go through the courts and get a Guardian ad Litem or a
Mental Health Custody Evaluator appointed and you will spend thousands of
dollars and most likely get someone appointed who won’t be as invested or take
as much time to really understand the situation, as a counselor would. Not to say that these options aren’t good,
but if you are asking questions on this blog, I am guessing you don’t currently
have an attorney, nor that you want to spend that kind of money… if that is the
case and you use a counselor with a long history of involvement and who knows
your child well, they can facilitate “family counseling” and a gradual
reintroduction in a healthy manner. Then
you have an unbiased third party, who is a mental health expert, who can
evaluate her, your child and give you some advice in this regard. Also, the
court appointed individuals will go away when the case ends and you are then
stuck with your court order and you have to abide by it, no matter what happens
thereafter. Whereas the counselor will continually
monitor the situation, make fluid changes dependent on the circumstances and
alleviate you from being the bad guy because you can defer to the counselor’s
opinion, rather than having to be the scapegoat and fight with the other party
yourself over any changes that may be in your child’s best interest, but not
necessarily theirs.
As
another option, if the supervised setting isn’t healthy and it’s affecting your
child because it is awkward and uncomfortable for them, you can always do it in
a public place as well, where even you are supervising across the dining room
or McDonalds or whatever. It may be a
little bit less awkward. Yet, upon you
doing this, you are taking a step back from your order and you may be losing
ground on why a professional supervisor was necessary in the first place if you
are now side stepping it and giving her more normalized visitation, just be
aware of that.
Further,
my recommendation is that you should always be informed. You hold all the power here, so meet with
her, meet with her family / roommates and make her prove that she has changed
before you turn your child over and accommodate her requests. If she has to jump through a few hoops, it
should be worthwhile for her considering that her number one priority should be
seeing her child and she should be willing to do whatever is necessary to see
him.
3)
Termination of Rights:
I
was debating on addressing this in the child support section, but I feel it
deserves its own response. There was a
question regarding a mother who dropped off her 10 year daughter and no longer
wanted to be a parent and simply disappeared after giving her ex his weekend
visitation. This question coincides with
something I regularly hear from clients and it is a common misperception that I
wanted to address. Contrary to what you
hear in movies and TV, there is no such thing as signing away your parental
rights. I hear this all the time and
yes, it happens in some cases with extremely severe facts, but it is very rare
and I don’t know where people get the idea this is so prevalent. Simply put….You cannot sign away your
parental rights, unless there is another parent adopting the child. For instance, Father abandons his family and leaves
Mother and child….Mother marries a new man, he petitions to adopt the child and
the Father then agrees to sign away his rights to the adoptive father. This is possible because someone else is
stepping into that role as parent. The
state inherently does not want to become a parent for financial support
purposes, so they will not let anyone off the hook and contrary to the movies
and TV, it is not common that one can just simply sign away their rights. Concerning the person who asked the question,
unfortunately, I don’t think you have all of the information and what you have
been told is most likely not accurate. Your
uncle should be in court, get an Order which actually provides him custody of
his daughter (if he does not have it already) and he should pursue the Mother for
child support and contribution to her daughter’s expenses. In fact, the commenter “Snork Maiden” hit the
nail on the head and answered this question quite correctly.
As an example, which you should
inform your Uncle of….I recently had a case where Mother married a new man who
was in the military and they moved to Hawaii where he was being
re-located. My client (Father) took the
child in and paid for everything for this child, while Mother was not paying
any support and not contributing to any expenses. After four (4) years, she moved back home
and after exercising her agreed weekend visitation, she texted my client and
said the child is not coming home and I am re-assuming custody. My client had no recourse, the only court
order entered was the Order entered 8 years prior that provided her with
custody. Not to mention, that he hired
me to defend him because she filed a petition trying to get him to pay her
support for the time that she was gone and he was raising the child, which
technically she had a chance to win based upon the letter of the law. Why was this illogical result the correct
legal answer? All because my client did
not go into court and tell the court of what he and his former wife had agreed
upon, which would have provided him a legal basis to re-gain custody and set
aside his child support obligation as a result.
If there is one lesson to be learned here, always get a court order to
confirm what your agreements are because years down the road, people will lie
to benefit themselves when it serves their own selfish best interest or money
is on the line.
4)
Default Divorce:
A commenter by the name of Haley
asked a question concerning her Mother waiting for the right time to serve
their father in order to get a divorce.
She referred to him running away and her Mother being left with no
options, but to stay married to this man.
I hear this all the time and I want to say this…..if you have any legal
case where you need to get someone “served,” to start the case and you cannot
understand how to do that or how to properly get in court because the Judge
keeps turning you away for service issues…hire a process server and get them
served. It will cost you around $100 and
upon serving the other party the process server will provide you with a
document to file with the court confirming they have served them. In response to Haley’s question, if your
Mother files a petition with the court to initiate the dissolution and gets a
summons issued to start the case, she can then hire a process server and they
track him down and give him the paperwork.
That way he cannot deny service. After your Mother gets him formally
served, f he doesn’t show up to court or participate, she may then file a
Motion for Default and obtain a default Judgment for Dissolution and get
divorced without his participation. For
anyone reading this and taking this as actual legal advice, I must say that you
have to consult your own state laws in this regard, but that is how it works in
several states that I am aware of. For
those of you who cannot get the other side of the case formally served, you would
have to research what other hoops your state requires you to jump through to
obtain a divorce without formal service.
It may be “service by publication” or many other various forms that they
will require, where you may have to publish notice in a newspaper, website or
whatever methods your state has approved, but to answer Haley’s questions, no
your mother does not have to stay imprisoned by her marriage. She may easily end it and get out of the
situation if that is what she wants. My
experience is that there are often many reasons that one party may not want to
proceed, but running from service and avoiding it, is not really a plausible or
justifiable reason that someone would remain married. I am guessing there is more to the story.
5)
Marital Property:
An
anonymous poster asked a question regarding placing her name on title for a
home that is non-marital property.
First, this area of law is state specific and you would need to defer to
your state’s law to preface my answer.
In my state, your house is non-marital property, meaning it is not yours
and you are not entitled to it. He
purchased it prior to marriage and in my state it would clearly be non-marital
property. You may be entitled to some of
the equity because it was paid down with “marital funds,” but in my state that
would be his property. The person
writing the question seemed concerned with the fact that they, not being an
owner, could not have this document written up to transfer title, which is not
correct. If you have the tax bill, that
will have the PIN on it, take that document to a real estate attorney and ask
them to draw up a Quit Claim Deed for you so that the property can be
transferred from you husband’s name to both you and your husband’s name to be
held in joint tenancy. If you are
curious about the different ways that title can be held, go ahead and ask them,
but as a married couple, you will most likely want joint tenancy. They will also request that you provide them
with the legal description of the property, but if you are that far along, then
ask your husband for the purchase documents so they can grab that description
right off his original purchase documents once you are already most of the way
through the process. A quit claim deed
should not cost you more than a few hundred dollars to have prepared, maybe
another $50 to record it and obviously it will make you sleep easier at night
based upon the question. Also, you asked
about placing the property in trust, I would recommend consulting an estate
planning attorney / financial consultant. They can establish a trust for you
and that is the most cost effective and beneficial way to transfer property
upon a person’s death because of the tax benefits and ease of the transition,
but I am not going to begin giving advice in that regard, please consult a lawyer
or financial advisor who specializes in this area.
6)
Reporting of Abuse:
Someone
posted the following:
How can a child decide if (s)he
is abused at home or not? When relatives make him feel inferior quite often in
many ways, he cries inside, but still doesn't know if it is a real violence or
just a human imperfection that others treat him that way? And he really want to
get some help, but doesn't have nobody to turn? And is afraid that if he asks
for help at school, his situation will become more "public", because
the teachers have a duty to inform proper authorities? Is there something
between the total revelation and total silence he can choose? How to find
someone trusted who can look at everything more objectively? Excluding the help
line, we assume he doesn't have a phone.
If
I may be honest, I didn’t really understand the underlying reason of why this
question was being asked because I am wondering what is really going on and
what caused this question to be worded in the manner it was. So, first I will respond by saying that any
form of physical or sexual abuse should be reported to some form of an
authority, police, school, social worker, etc. If the abuse this child is
suffering from is more of a mental or verbal form of abuse, then I would
recommend seeing a counselor, whether at school or a private mental health
professional, to help them work through the situation and/or determine if it
has risen to a level warranting further intervention (police, school, etc.). I would hope that a counselor would keep
this child’s confidentiality unless there is a very severe form of abuse or
neglect going on here that warranted a mandated reporter call.
7) Eden and the personal questions:
I was surprised to see that a
majority of your questions were not centered around the law or questions
concerning my profession, but rather personal questions regarding myself or
what it is like to know Eden in person.
After reading over your questions and writing a draft of my response to
the legal questions, I have to admit that I was not exactly pleasant in my
response to Eden because when it comes to answering the legal questions that is
easy for me. Yet, when I have to sit
down and write a personal response about myself or even worse, someone else, I
actually have to put some more thought into it, which is not what I was
personally expecting to see. So, here
goes…
First, I am not single and am very
happily involved in a relationship with a wonderful girl. With that being said, while I am on my
soapbox, people always ask me if I have been hardened by this job and if it
scares me away from marriage and I have to say, if there is one thing this job
has taught me is how important it is in selecting a partner and spouse. If this can carry over to advice that may
help anyone reading this blog, I would have to say be careful. I have seen the worst in people,
relationships and how horrible people can truly be at the end of a relationship.
What one could envision of their spouse
and who they truly are isn’t revealed in the passionate beginning of their
relationship, when everyone is on their best behavior. It is only over time, when the honeymoon
stage of a relationship has subsided when you will begin to see the true nature
of your partner. It is only then that one can truly begin to understand who
their partner is. It isn’t in the good
times, but the bad that you will determine if you have selected someone that
you can spend the rest of your life with.
That choice is not one to be taken lightly as you are legally binding
yourself to this individual in good times and in bad. So, coming from someone who sees the demise
of a relationship on a daily basis, please choose wisely, do not take it
lightly and do not rush into such a monumental decision. Your
life and your future depend on that decision and please consider if this
individual is someone who you can envision suffering through the bad times with
and who will support you and lift you up, rather than burden you and bring you
down when push comes to shove.
Second, someone asked me a question
regarding how I found myself to be involved in the Pro Bono side of the law and
why I would do such a thing. Please let
me explain that as an attorney, your local bar association will often look to
its members to represent individuals who have qualified for free services
through the local legal aid society. In
those instances you feel compelled to support your local bar association and
heed their requests, so you take those cases, which are true “Pro Bono”
assignments. In those cases, you are
serving your local community, often rewarded with accolades and presented with
an acknowledgment of your service through the members of your legal community. More often than not though, you don’t foresee
yourself representing your client on a pro bono basis, but rather you feel
compelled to continue helping someone that you have come to know very well, who
you want to help and understand that they simply do not have the means to pay your
hourly rate for all of the work that is
required to be done to properly represent them.
Obviously, as an example, Eden was someone who needed to be set free from
the horrific relationship that she was in.
She was a good person, someone that I could’ve grown up with or been
friends with and she found herself in a situation where she absolutely needed
my help. She has always paid me every
dollar that she could afford and she is very appreciative for my assistance,
but when her retainer was used up, I had a decision to make….to help my client
and see the case through or put the almighty dollar first and focus on a paying
client’s case. Personally, I didn’t feel
that I had a choice in this case, as I had to do the right thing and see the
case through. So, all in all, to answer
your question….no attorney seeks out Pro Bono cases or would classify
themselves as an attorney that takes those cases, unless you work for the
state. What happens is that you come to
know your client, feel for them and you feel compelled to help those clients,
who are few and far between, that actually and legitimately need your help
because it may be a life and death situation for this person, or their
children, if you do not.
Now in regard to Eden, it is very hard for me to do
justice to the person that you have followed and come to know through this blog
in a mere few paragraphs. She has made
monumental strides over the course of the past few years and to be honest, I
truly feel that I am just now beginning to get to know the person that she
truly is.
When I met Eden, I have to say [and I hope this
doesn’t offend her] that she was a shell of the person that I have come to know
now. From day one she has always been a bubbly,
extremely positive, quick witted, sarcastic person that I generally enjoy
talking to or being around. Yet, when I
met Eden several years ago, she was much more timid, nervous, always looking
over her shoulder, generally skeptical of the world around her and scared of
what was to come. She had endured a lot
and with good reason, she was worried about what the next hurdle to overcome
would be or how things may go wrong. She
would constantly question my advice because I didn’t quite understand her life,
what she had been through and what may be the result of taking that course of
action. Partially because she would
never really tell me what was going on.
She kept things very close to the vest and never shared any more
information regarding her life than was absolutely necessary for me to help
address the issue of the day. In fact, I
came to learn more about her childhood and her marriage through this blog,
rather than from her directly. I came to
expect that when I spoke to her, she wasn’t going to tell me all the dirty details
of what happened and that she would only
give me enough information to do my job.
Although I don’t quite understand it at times, I respect her for it in
hindsight. I also have come to realize
that I believe she did that because she didn’t want that to be the focus of her
life, nor how others would judge or perceive her. She didn’t want that to define her life, nor
who she was as a person.
I can honestly say that Eden is undoubtedly one of
the most positive people that I have ever met.
She never wanted to dwell on the negative aspects of her life or let it
get her down. No matter what she is
going through, how hard the road ahead of her is or how many things she may be
dealing with at any given time… you would never know it. With me, it is often a problem because I
never really know how bad things are until it has gone too far and she feels
she has to reluctantly share the information with me because she doesn’t know
what else to do. If it is the ex-husband
harassing her, child support not paying her what she is entitled to or whatever
it may be, I find out about it when things are already dire and the way she
frames the problem to me, it often doesn’t resonate that it is an emergency
because I only come to learn that she sold all of her furniture to make ends
meet or is truly scared for her life, weeks or months after that information
would have been useful to me and compel me to speed the legal process up as a
result.
Eden has come a long way since the day I first met
her. She is still the same person and
there is no monumental change that has taken place, but I would like to believe
that she has come to regain her self-image, self-confidence and purpose in life
over the course of the past few years. She
now sees herself, as I and others who have met her do. She truly is who you believe she is and her
personality really does shine through in this blog. Clearly, I am sure that you have come to
realize that she is a goofball. The
first person to throw herself under the bus, embarrass herself and make light
of it to everyone in the room, rather than apologize or be embarrassed she
embraces who she is and revels in it.
She is a smart ass and extremely sarcastic, with a great sense of
humor. She is one of the only people
that I find myself going back and forth with far longer than normal, cracking
jokes and trying to out-wit the other; which says a lot because not too many
people can keep up with me most times, but I find that it’s typically the
opposite with her. Eden is also one of
the most hard-working people I have ever met.
Quite frankly, I don’t know how she does it. I wear my emotions on my sleeve and everyone
in the room always knows how I feel about everything, which often leads to me
complaining or justifying my frustration on how much I have on my plate with
this job. Yet, she never responds in
kind. If it is me writing her a nasty
e-mail complaining about how much I have to do at work and how I don’t have the
time to help with the blog, the not-for-profit or whatever it may be, she
always responds extremely kindly and in an understanding manner. She lets me off the hook for what she
desperately needed me to do and doesn’t fire back. Then, hours or days later, I realize that I
don’t have children, I don’t have a crazy ex-husband, I am not managing a business,
blog, not-for-profit, all while attending to hundreds / thousands of people
e-mailing me about their personal problems.
I am reminded that the problems in my life on a daily basis, pale in the
comparison to hers. I then feel bad and
apologize for even trying to complain to her, when my problems are laughable in
comparison [sorry again by the way – writing this response to your questions
definitely falls in that category].
I respect Eden, I truly do. She is a great person who is a light to those
around her. She is an inspiration for
others in so many ways and I am proud that I can say we are friends and colleagues. I feel protective of her and responsible for
seeing that she becomes the success that I believe she can be in all facets of
life. I would like to think that we
share a brother-sister esque relationship and I have come to learn that we are
eerily similar. From having the same type
of car, to the fact that I often see pictures in the blog where she has stolen
my taste in art, to the same interest in self-help / inspirational books to
evaluate the key to life or the odd humor that we find in life, which others
would find weird. She’s a strange one
and one of a kind, but that is why I am here.
That is why I support her and will continue to help her, even though it
serves me no purpose. Other attorneys
would’ve quit the second the retainer was used up and I considered it, my boss
probably suggested it, but here I am. In
the end, I think it will truly make a difference in both of our lives when all
is said and done and I hope that I have impacted her life and helped her take a
step in the right direction for her and her children [who are like the cutest
kids I have ever met by the way – hilarious little ones who seem to be just as
curious, energetic, unapologetic and upbeat as their mother].
In an attempt to answer all of the questions posed
of me, a few of the questions asked how I feel reading her version of the
events that I was involved in, if it makes me a better attorney and how I have
learned from the victims of abuse associated with this blog. As Eden likes to point out to me on occasion,
I have lived a privileged life. My
parents are still together, I come from a great background, my dad was the
little league coach, the cub scout leader.
My mom was a stay at home mother.
My parents showed me the world, never denied me any of the important
things in life, supported me, were an example of who to strive to become and they
gave me a great childhood, which resulted in me graduating from college and law
school, without really ever enduring the horrific side of life that this job
has exposed me to. I believe Eden refers
to me as vanilla or something like that, but she’s right and I am the first to
admit it. So, in thinking about it, the
one thing that I have come to realize in reading this blog and your comments is
the mindset of my clients and an understanding of how I can better serve
them.
I am very direct and I often don’t take the time to
understand where people are coming from because inherently I know what is best
for them in their case. It comes with
the job, my time is valuable, you pay me to make decisions for you, you have
told me your problems, I know how to handle it, so follow my advice and do what
I say. True lawyer response and
sentiment, I know, but it’s true. Yet,
in reading her perspective of the case or how a particular court appearance
went or whatever it may be, this blog has given me a real insight into the
mindset of my client. For me, it is just
another court date, one day, like most others, where I am doing my job. I forget the emotion and the baggage that
comes with mustering up the courage to even cross the court house doors. I forget that the one person in the world
that my client doesn’t want to be in room with is there, they are going to have
to face that fear and that I need to be more cognizant of my client’s
feelings. That I have to keep in mind
that I can’t begin to fathom the history, pain and emotion that are associated
with my role in their lives. It has also
taught me to understand the mentality of a woman who has been through an
abusive relationship. After the
hundreds, if not thousands, of cases I have been involved in, there have been
many abuse cases. Yet, this blog is the
only thing that really made me understand why my clients acted the way they
did. Why they were so scared to take the
action that everyone around them clearly saw was needed. Why they don’t seem to act in a logical and
reasonable manner, at least in my opinion as the lawyer. Why they resist in following my advice. And,
why I have to be aware of what they are going through as human beings and not
treat them as just another file. It has
taught me a great deal of things that I cannot begin to empathize with or
understand, but must make a cognizant effort to consider in how I deal with
them and pose their options to them.
It wasn’t until handling Eden’s case that I realized
that “battered woman’s syndrome” is very real and how to deal with it on my
end. She told me on many occasions that
I was fired and that she was not going to proceed with the divorce because it
was not worth it. I didn’t let her. I posed many questions to her about what she
wanted for her children, for herself and that she could not continue living the
life that she was because it was not healthy for her, nor her children, and
that she deserved better. So….in looking
back, what I learned was a valuable lesson.
This blog and meeting Eden have taught me an understanding of an aspect
of humanity that I never knew existed, could understand and it has made me a
better person and a better lawyer as a result.
I hope I answered all of your questions and I look
forward to the opportunity of continuing to follow along on this journey with
all of you.
Mr. Attorney Man –
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Yea, I totally named him that all on my own. Who would have thought the name would have not only stuck, but that you would all even be here!? I certainly didn't expect that!
So there ya go, about 7 hours of Mr. Attorney Man's time. Make sure you thank him in the comments section, I know he worked really hard on this!
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Whoa. That was intense. Thank you for taking the time to do that! I hadn't asked a legal question but I enjoyed reading your views on Eden. She talks you up so much on here that I was happy to see that the relationship was mutual. She seems like such a kind heart I get worried that she places her admiration in the wrong places and I was happy to see that you think highly of her as well. You seem like a great team.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Mr. Attorney Man!!! I appreciate your time, wisdom, insight, and willingness to give even more of your time to a cause that will have no discernible effect on your pocketbook. Just as you have learned from Eden, she has learned from you. And just as we have learned from her, she from us, and us from you! I know that I am grateful for what you do for Eden, and, by extension, for this blog.
ReplyDeleteI came over from XOJane, lots of people hating on you there today. I was prepared to hate you as well, but I just can't not after reading your blog. Lots of misquoted quotes are being published by the commentors, and once reading through here I see how GROSSLY they were taken out of context. I think even this post alone proves that you aren't as "insufferable" as everyone is claiming you to be, saying that you must be a MISERABLE person to be around. You don't seem miserable to me, just overworked sometimes. Glad to come here and read a different perspective of you from someone who knows you.
ReplyDeleteThanks
Thank you!
ReplyDeleteThank you Mr Attorney man for all your answers.
ReplyDeleteI love how he said your kids were "like the cutest kids ever." So sweet and I would have to agree, from what I can see of their faces they are very good looking kids!!
ReplyDeleteHaha, well thanks!
DeleteWow. Thanks for the answers, Mr. Attorney Man!
ReplyDeleteYou answered one of my questions and it was EXACTLY what I needed to hear, thank you!
ReplyDeleteHello Mr. Attorney Man, I did not read all of the legal questions/answers but focused on your comments on Eden. You hit the nail right on the head. Knowing Eden as I do for the past 17 + years, she is just as you describe. I wish I had been more aware of her situation in her teen years - possibly could have been there for her and changed the direction of her life - although she certainly is one to make lemonade out of lemons, isn't she? I admire and respect the woman and mother she has become. I'm very proud to call her my friend. Thanks for being there for her. We should definitely meet someday !! :-)
ReplyDeleteFrisbee Boy's Mom ♥ (posting as anonymous purposefully)
Awwww!!! And this is why I love you <3
Delete"A woman asked a more pointed question regarding withholding orders because she is hard-pressed to continue chasing her ex who quits job-after-job before she can get a stable amount of support through any one employer. " this was me and I wanted to say thank you for facilitating the request for Mr attorney man to answer our questions. I'm looking up to see if my state has an enforcement agency now. Please pass along my thanks!
ReplyDeleteThanks for answering my "help a dad out" question... it confirms what I was leaning towards which is not going around the court order and also gave me a new idea of using a neutral, professional third party person like a counselor to facilitate the situation more like a guardian ad litem.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Sir, for all the time you devoted to answering these people's questions! Like you, I have lived a very "vanilla" life with excellent, loving parents, a great family of my own now, access to education, a great job, etc, etc. I am very glad to know that Eden has people in her life like that now, who can show her how valuable and loved she is, and defend her from an at-best-indifferent world. She clearly has within her the capacity for greatness, and it's up to people like us (with our positions of often-unearned privilege) to help her accomplish great things.
ReplyDeleteYou are too kind :)
DeleteThis "attorney" sure has poor grammar and spelling and would have benefited from twenty minutes of copyediting and proofreading. I call shenanigans. Either "Mr Attorney Man" isn't a real lawyer or Eden did some paraphrasing. Anyone with a bachelors degree should be able to vomit out a basic term paper with better writing.
ReplyDeleteAh, I see what you did here. You spewed your hatred on the other post, got shot down, and moved over to this thread.
DeleteGo home, it's just sad now.
Ha, oh geez. You know, these really are my FAVORITE troll comments, the grammar ones. I like them because although on the surface they appear to say one thing, the hidden message sounds more like this:
Delete"I couldn't find anything else to complain about, so I'm going to pick on the grammar. Forget the fact that someone spent his time answering questions that people asked (for no other reason than just to help them out), I'm a pissy person and I feel like everyone else should be slightly annoyed as well, because otherwise, it's just not fair. At least after I point out how much smarter I am than you, I'll feel a bit better for the rest of my day, and everyone will admire me."
Congrats, take your bow, I'll throw a few roses, and maybe that can get you through a few days.
Carry on, the shows over here.
And P.S., since when did a law degree come attached with an English major? We all have subjects that we do better at than others. Except for you of course, I'm sure you are perfect. Gosh, the world is so lucky to have you.
Excuse me now, I'm gonna go shine up your trophy.
If Eden wrote that, then I'm even more impressed with her than I already was. This is blog, not a major publication. That was pretty much the longest blog post in the history of blogs that I've ever read, I'm pretty sure that with an actual attorney's schedule that proofreading 25 pages wasn't on the top of his to-do list. For a blog. Not a term paper, a blog.
DeleteI read it as him writing it as he would speak, as if in a casual conversation. A couple grammar mistakes aside, I feel like the tone of his writing was so very thoughtful and it felt very personal and warm. That warmth even shined (or is it shone?) through some of the legalese.
ReplyDeleteOne of the most educated, bright, well informed, well traveled people I know has a PhD and often writes with poor grammar sprinkled around. Baby, he was born that way! No amount of education and reading will fix his inherently bad grammar. It still slips out now and then.
By the way, if you're so suspicious why don't you go elsewhere?